The NineSevenTeenthEvent  - disciplinary language ( 01/12/2023 )

Executive Summary : Based on the last 2 Versions of the ByLaws, There are No Provisions for Removing Active Members from the Division Organization Other than Camp Removal and/or by NonPayment Of Dues.  Efforts by UnDisclosed Entities,  have been making efforts since 2015 ;   To Enact changes to the Bylaws-Disciplinary Section to Remove Active Members, but All have Been Unsuccessful.  In 2019 A ByLaws Amendment was passed with 60% of the Vote for the Author of A ByLaws Identify Themselves and have at least one additional Co-Sponsor. In 2022 another ANTI-Membership ByLaw Amendment was attempted but failed due to being tabled for a period of 1 Year. 

01-The Event Cranked off around 11am and went to 1:30pm.  

02-There was Seating for about 100 and there were 95 in attendance. 

03-Club Membership is Estimated to be about 1400+- so there was about 8% Attendance. 

      At one event, it was mentioned that a 10-15% quorum was required to hold a corporate meeting. 

04-It was pointed out that the measure had been Officially Tabled at the 2022 ReUnion to be ReConsidered at the 2023 ReUnion. 

05-It was pointed Out there there was No Language in the ConstitutionByLaws to hold ReUnions between The Annual ReUnions held in June. 

06-A Motion was held to Adjourn the Meeting on grounds there were no provision for InPromptu ReUnions outside the June TimeFrame. 

07-A Lengthy Discussion Ensued for Well Over an Hour. 

08-Derogatory Mention was made that very few had been informed about the 9/17 gathering. 

09-Derogatory Mention was made of The Menace of Holding UnAnnounced  Secret S~ Meetings WithOut Any Minutes Being Taking. 

10-Derogatory Mention was made That At a Time of Declining Membership Due to Age,  and LeftistAntiConfederateMedia;  The urgency of ReMoving Active Participating S~members was questioned. 

11-A Roll Call Vote Was Demanded ... The Vote Came out to 50/42 to continue the meeting. Not sure what the Individual Tally was. Not sure if these Numbers Representated Camp Totals, Simply those in attendance. . 

12-Derogatory Mention was made regarding moving disciplinary matters into secret "Executive Session" where 

13-The Topic Of Discussion was Removing Active Participating S~ Members WithOut Camp Consent. 

14-Mention Was Made of An Instance where a  member was found to be a Rapist and needed language to remove at state level was needed.

15-Mention Was Made of the Possibility that a  member might be Determined to be a Pedophile and language to remove at state level was needed. . 

16-Mention was made to the effect that it was Essential to have a Process to move Rapists, Pedophiles, and Criminals as it would reflect on National organization, and not the Local Camp. 

17-Derogatory Mention Was Made Regarding the Text Which stated that a Member was to be be considered "Expelled"  if they resigned. 

18-Numerous Friendly Amendments were made to Amend the Language to be Voted On.

19-A Voice Vote was held.  It was announced that in the opinion of the chair the ayes had it.

20-Meeting was adjourned on or about 1:30pm. 

21-At this Juncture there is still NO proof of their being any language in the constitutionbylaws for holding reunions outside the annual june timeframe. 

22-At this Juncture there is no Language which Allows for an event referred to as a "ReUnion" outside the June TimeFrame of each Year. 

23-At this Juncture, the only event where changes to the ConstitutionByLaws can be submitted and voted is at an Annual "ReUnion" which can only be held in June of each year. 

24-At this Juncture, Any Proposed Amendments to the ConstitutionByLaws are to be submitted 3 months prior to the ReUnion which is held in June. ( Feb/Mar TimeFrame or Earlier )

25-Since the language of the 917th event was heavily Amended, It would have to be ReWritten, And ReSubmitted with TheOriginalAuthor,  and All CoSponsors.  

26. The Name Of The Original 6/2022 Sponsor of the disciplinary language would need to be specified. 

27-Prior to July 2022 There Was No Language in the S~Nat~Const~ providing for the ReMoval of ActiveMembers by the National Organization.  

28.There was some sort of Language Presented by the NewOrleansJudaBenjamin Camp in 2022 to Remove ActiveMembers.  No Rationale was stated. 

29. Prior to 2022, The Only Obligation by State Divisions or Camps to the National Organization was to Collect $35 Dues for the Quarterly Magazine. 

30. ADDITIONALLY : The Language  Any Action "Inconsistent" with the National Organization in Ambiguous. 

      The specific action would need to be specified in writing ... what it was inconsistent with would have to be 

31. ADDITIONALLY :  The Language for dealing with "Hate" Groups is Ambiguous.  Someone would have to define "Hate". 

      Someone would have to prove an affiliation, and that the affiliation was to a "Hate" group. 

32. ADDITIONALLY :  Since the group is considered to be Non-Political ; There is no basis to interrogate one's political affiliations; 

      Even if they are known to be LeftWing Marxists opposed to Confederate Heritage, and actually for vote for ANTI-Confederate Politicians.  

33. ADDITIONALLY :  The Language referring to "Criminal" Activity is Ambiguous in that many criminal actions are victimless. 

      Sometimes the Language used is "Felony or Misdemeanor" ( i.e. Seat Belt Violation ) is used.

34. ADDITIONALLY :   Regarding "Criminal" Activity; There are Federal Laws, State Laws,

      and Local Ordinances ... Many Federal Laws pertain to matters which are Entirely Victimless.

      No member should be admonished for any crime which is victimless.

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LEGAL ISSUES PERTAINING TO REMOVAL OF ACTIVE S~ MEMBERS FROM DIVISION PROPERTY.

A Sample format for a letter or affidavit to be drafted may be as follows ( The 4 sheets can be attached )

MS-STATE CODE

TRESSPASSING

LIBEL - 99-7

NON-PROFIT CORPORATIONS

ORIGINAL DEED TO BEAUVOIR PROPERTY

AFFIDAVIT : The Mississippi Division Of the S~ ... aka S~-MS Division Ownership Of Beauvoir Property

WhereAS  the SCV Sons Of Confederation was Created in 1896 for the sole purpose   Of Preserving and Protecting Southern Confederate Heritage.  The Constitution ByLaws of the SCV is written in such a manner WhereBy each State would have an Independent SCV Division which governed its State Organization and promoted the Creation of Local Camps which would hold monthly meetings.  Each SCV Member pays dues to its camp, pays dues to its State Division Organization, and Pays Dues to the National Organization Separately.

WhereAs the SCV-MS Division Has Governed the SCV affairs for the Mississippi Organization since 1896.

WhereAs in 1903 The Beauvoir Property ( Jefferson Davis Shrine ) was sold by the Wife Of Jefferson Davis ( Varinia Davis ) to the SCV-MS Division to be used as Retirement Home for Soldiers who had served in the Confederacy. The Deed and Title Specify the Mississippi Division of the SCV as the Grantee. The Last Confederate Veteran being housed on the Beauvoir left in 1957 and the Property was Maintained to Promote the memory of the 800+- soldiers buried on the property and the memory of the Jefferson Davis Family.

WhereAS Since 1903, SCV Members of the Mississippi Division of the SCV ( In Good Standing ) are part owners of the Beauvoir Property and hold an indefinite lease to enter and promote the Well Being Of the Beauvoir Property.

WhereAs in view of the occurrence of the Events Described Above; Any Member of the Mississippi Division of the Sons Of Confederate Veterans ( In Good Standing ) may enter the Beauvoir Property without the menace of being removed by another Member Unless there are charges that crime has been committed.  A Crime would be an act of Violence Or Threat To a Guest or Member on the property, An Act Of theft on the property, Drunkenness, or possession of a controlled substance.  

WhereAs There is no basis for One SCV Member to Assert that Another SCV Member is Trespassing onto the Beauvoir Property for any reason other than to report a crime of Violence, Theft, Or Substance Abuse.